Episode 3
3. The Moment I Realised I Was Living a Life That Wasn’t Mine
In this episode of the Bold, Brave Woman Project, I reflect deeply on what it means to be a bold, brave woman in today's world, particularly in the context of my own life. I explore how I have allowed my career, relationships, and societal expectations to define me.
After a recent event that left me questioning my path, I share my journey of realising that what I thought I wanted and needed might not truly align with my authentic self. This reflection has been both daunting and enlightening, leading to significant conversations with loved ones, and reevaluations of who I am and who I want to be.
Join me as I unravel these thoughts and feelings, seeking to inspire you to also examine your definitions of boldness and bravery in your own life.
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Transcript
I'm Andrea Lee Matthies, writer, photographer,
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:and Clairvoyant Medium, and this
is the Bold, Brave Woman Project.
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:This podcast is a living, breathing,
unfolding of what it really
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:means to step into our becoming.
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:Born from the ashes of a failed YouTube
channel, this weekly podcast brings you
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:real unfiltered moments of failure, of
bravery, and of deep intuitive knowing.
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:so that you too can step into who you are
becoming with even more trust and bravery.
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:Let's dive in.
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:Andi M: Hello and welcome to
the Bold, brave Woman Project.
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:I've been thinking a lot lately about
this project and about what it really
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:means to be a bold, brave woman I think
what's been really interesting is I've
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:always had certain definitions of bold
and brave and what it means to be a
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:woman, particularly in today's society.
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:But lately I've been trying to
really dig into that and think,
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:yes, but what does that mean for me?
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:What does that mean
for me and for my life?
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:And if I am to go on this journey of
making myself the bold, brave woman,
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:the woman in the project, the woman who
wants to dream and dare and do things,
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:what is it that I need to change?
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:Like what does that actually
tangibly and realistically look like?
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:And it sent me on a bit of a rabbit
hole, and that's why I wanna share
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:this episode with you right at the top
of the podcast because I've actually
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:landed in some places that I didn't
expect and have been battling a few
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:things lately that I've really had to
dig into and around to work out what it
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:is that I really want for myself, what,
what it is that I want for my life.
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:Do I wanna continue down the pathway of
the things that I've been doing and the
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:way that I've been living my life and the
way I've been managing my relationships,
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:and I'm not sure that it is.
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:And whilst.
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:Placing these kinds of questions
can be daunting, can be scary,
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:can be anxiety provoking.
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:There's also this moment of, of
expansiveness, of expression, of really
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:excavating what is real and what is
true and not fact, because I know
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:there's a big difference between true.
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:In fact, particularly when it comes to
being a human and living in a nuanced
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:society with everything that is around
us in terms of our material lives,
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:but also our energetic lives as well.
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:But who is it that I really wanna be?
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:Now, up until this point, like I've
been reflecting a lot on my life.
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:I have had such a.
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:Meander type life.
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:especially when it came to my
career, and, and I've defined myself
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:by who am I as by what I'm doing.
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:What I'm doing in terms of my
career, in terms of my hobbies and
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:activities, my day-to-day routines,
I've allowed the doing and the action
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:and the titles to really define
who I am, and this has worked well
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:and quote unquote, successfully.
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:Find both financially and from a
relationship perspective for a long time,
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:and so I haven't really needed to question
it, but just with all of this energy
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:that's moving through me at the moment,
I'm in this place where I, I actually
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:wanna lift up the lid and the curtain and
dust these places and spaces off and look
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:at them with a perspective of questioning.
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:A, how did I get here?
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:And B, is this really what I
want to continue to move forward?
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:And it's been both a delightful and
expansive period, but also one of quiet.
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:Dark, um, and heaviness.
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:Not so much darkness, but heaviness
and sadness and contraction of
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:questioning and realization that perhaps
I've landed myself in a space and a
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:lifestyle that isn't one that really
aligns with my, my heart in terms
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:of who I am now and where I'm going.
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:I look back over my life and none
of the decisions have been wrong.
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:This isn't about.
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:Reflecting and having regret and wanting
to have made different decisions.
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:There's a huge amount of grace and
gratitude that I do feel when I look
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:back across my life because all of
the hardships, all the difficulties,
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:all of the decisions that were
made that perhaps led me down
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:paths that were less anticipated,
still got me to be where I am now.
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:Even with some of the contraction
and things that I am working through,
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:but it's such a beautiful place to be
with all of this depth of experience
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:and wealth of knowledge that comes
from having lived through a lot of
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:those experiences and having to ask
a lot of those questions based on
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:the things that I have either done or
seen or witnessed or had done to me.
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:You know, there's, there's a
wealth of questions that now exist
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:for me to be able to ask that.
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:If I hadn't have had those moments and
those experiences, I wouldn't even be
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:aware that there were different questions
to ask or different ways to see or look.
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:And it also helps me relate to the world
and relate to people in a deeper level.
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:And so there's this huge sense of
gratitude that I do carry with me
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:every day, but also this need now to.
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:Really just sit and look at it all
and ask, well, who do I wanna be?
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:Not just who I am, because of
course that is always evolving.
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:And of course the decisions and actions
and things that I've done that have
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:led to this point shape who I am.
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:But who do I want to be?
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:And one of the things that I've been
thinking about recently and has come
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:through really clear for me is this
difference between want and need.
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:And I think I, for a long
time, I've confused the two.
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:I've lived in this place
of, well, I need everything.
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:Or like I want everything.
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:'cause I need it.
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:You know?
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:I have had a career.
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:And the different episodes will touch
on different facets of this, but I've
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:had a career where I've done lots
of different things from creative
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:to engineering and technical to
marketing to strategic back into, um.
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:Nursing fields and healing fields
and service fields right across,
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:again, to creative and strategic.
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:And I have just gone through
these different cycles and
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:different periods where I've had
different focuses in my life.
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:And along the way I have picked
up certain lifestyle traits.
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:Like I wanna live in a really
good suburb and I wanna have
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:a certain, um, type of living.
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:Sort of environment in terms of
like really modern and clean and
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:you know, you walk in and it's like
marble and it feels really lovely.
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:Like I'm not talking lavish, but I'm
just talking that simplistic, modern.
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:Yet I've made it when I walk in the
door and look around at this, the
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:fixtures and the fittings and the
furnishings, like somehow in my life I've
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:attributed success to things like that.
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:And you know, when a certain.
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:Um, relationships.
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:You know, I want deep caring relationships
with my friend and my family and
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:my husband and I have a beautiful
relationship with my husband, but I also
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:wanna make sure I am seen to be social
and have certain friendship groups
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:and feel fulfilled on those levels.
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:And.
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:I wanna do certain hobbies.
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:There's been lots of things that I
just, along the way of moving in and
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:out of these different careers and these
different experiences and decisions I've
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:made, that I've picked up all of these.
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:Well, I need these things 'cause otherwise
I'm unhappy and I've built a life around
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:these decisions and around these wants.
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:But what is really interesting is of late.
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:I've gotten everything that I really
quote unquote wanted the definition
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:that I thought was going to make me
happy in terms of the house, in the nice
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:suburb or the, the apartment rather.
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:In the nice suburb with the
beautiful fixtures and fittings and
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:furniture, you know, the perfect
marriage with an amazing man.
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:So I can say, oh, you know, this
is my husband and I'm married.
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:And you know, the title
that goes with that.
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:I've got the coaching business, which
is, you know, one of those titles
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:that a lot of people seek around.
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:Oh, you're a, you know,
a coach or a mentor.
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:You run your own business,
you're an entrepreneur.
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:You know, there's a certain level,
even though it's hard work, prestige
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:and reputation that goes with that.
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:I work for myself.
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:I, I make my own hours.
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:I call in my own clients, you know,
there's a lot of power and like
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:I said, reputation or energetic
status that comes along with that.
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:So I kind of, all these things that I'd
been dreaming of and working towards.
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:I woke up recently and
I'm like, oh my goodness.
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:Like I, I followed that path
and I have those things.
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:Why is it then that there's
still a part of me that.
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:It doesn't wanna be here, that doesn't
want to be in this apartment, that
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:doesn't want to necessarily show up on
Instagram and do all the things that
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:we need to do for our coaching business
and serve the clients in the way that
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:we've set the framework up to, to do.
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:Um, you know, the way that my husband
and I have set up our lifestyle and
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:our hobbies and our routines and habits
and how we have dinner and all of the
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:things like, why am I all of a sudden.
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:Having chased and built and wanted,
all of these things, why am I so
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:sad and empty and unfulfilled?
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:And I'm not saying that nothing
in my life makes me happy.
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:You know, my husband and I recently
moved into this new beautiful
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:apartment and in our old apartment I
was dreaming of this new apartment.
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:And we've moved and we've
been here for four months now.
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:This last couple of weeks, I would
say the last two or three weeks
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:I've been waking up and I'm like.
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:Why is this not enough?
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:Like, why is the thing that I
thought was gonna bring me joy?
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:Not, you know, did I make a wrong choice?
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:Should we have stayed in the other place?
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:Like, you know, you start to question
all of our decisions and doubt
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:ourselves, but I realized at some point
I had followed a path that I had set
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:for myself based on what I thought
that I needed and that I wanted.
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:And I've woken up with the universe
and all the effort that I've put in
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:that I, that I have the thing that
I've wanted, and all of a sudden I'm
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:like, oh, maybe that's not what I
wanted because I was sleepwalking on
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:autopilot into a life that I thought
I needed, or I thought that I wanted.
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:And this all catalyzed because
recently I went to an event, um,
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:there was an event by a mentor and
a coach that I love here in my area
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:of Melbourne, and she was hosting an
event that was a collaboration event.
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:It was an event that brought
powerful women together into a
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:space to meet, network, collaborate.
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:Learn more about collaboration, get
into the energy and the energetics of
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:what that is and how that works so that
powerhouse women could come together
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:and build incredible things together.
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:Because as a solo entrepreneur, we don't
necessarily always wanna work solo.
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:Sometimes if we find our right person.
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:We wanna create and build
magical things together.
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:And I'd kind of gotten to a point in my
coaching business where I was like, I
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:think collaboration is the next level.
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:That is the next level of success and
door opening and opportunity that I need.
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:And so when this event.
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:First popped up, I was
like, right, I'm there.
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:Bought my ticket.
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:And my mom's also in this beautiful space
as well, so she, I, I mentioned it to
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:her and she's like, yes, I wanna go too.
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:It's gonna be amazing.
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:so we booked accommodation, we'd
organized all of our things.
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:We were gonna go away for a couple of
days and go to this event and brainstorm.
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:It was gonna be magical.
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:And so I, for a month, I was
like, oh, this event, this
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:event's gonna be my next level.
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:This event's gonna have
the answers that I seek.
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:And so I had so much anticipation
on this event, unlocking the next
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:level, both within me and for me
in terms of collaboration and.
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:It got down there, we checked into our
little Airbnb, which was beautiful,
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:like, you know, modern and all of the
aesthetic things that, you know, makes
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:you feel, particularly when you're
entrepreneur, that you've made it.
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:This is amazing.
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:and the next morning we get up and we
get ready and, you know, quite excited.
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:We head off to this event.
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:The event itself was at a winery.
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:So again, it was at the
beautiful, um, location.
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:There was, it was beautiful reception upon
arrival, and we settle into this space and
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:then the event starts, and the women who
were leading it were very high energy and,
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:and beautiful, high intentional women.
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:But what I realized, the longer that
I sat and watched this event and
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:watched these women in this space.
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:It's hard to describe, but there was a
part of me that kind of got further and
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:further and further away as if I was
like watching it, um, from a bird's eye
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:view perspective and had nothing but this
feeling of, oh my goodness, I thought that
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:I was one of these women and that these
are the kinds of events and spaces and
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:women that I wanted to be in host, um,
you know, lead support, the whole thing.
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:I thought that this was the world that
I, not desperately, but this is the
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:world that I was elevating my coaching.
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:Two, because my coaching has been very
deep and very intimate, one-on-one, and I
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:thought, no, I'm gonna go big with events
and stage and all of this kind of stuff.
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:And I was watching this group and
the women around me and just felt.
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:Like an outof body experience, and I
know this was my higher self starting to
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:show to me and to crack open and release
all of this armor, this shielding,
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:this structure of who I had become.
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:All of a sudden, my higher self and
myself and my inner knowing started
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:to release all of that outside.
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:It was like a crust that I'd been wearing,
whatever was going on in this moment and.
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:Being divinely supported.
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:All of this stuff just melted.
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:It just cracked and melted away, and
all of a sudden I was sitting there and
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:I was like, I don't want any of this.
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:This is not who I am.
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:This is not the world that I wanna be.
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:I don't.
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:Wanna lead these kinds of rooms.
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:like I had been following a path of
entrepreneurship, of marketing, of
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:branding, of becoming, of contorting,
to be a coach that I thought was the
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:best version of me that I should be, and
I'd found myself in this room, which I
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:had, you know, been so excited to get
into and to pay for only to realize.
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:I don't want any of this.
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:This is not for me, and this is absolutely
no comment on these incredible, powerful
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:women that we're reading are leading this
workshop, and this is no comment on the
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:women in the space because I could see
them in their full, beautiful selves.
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:but I realized all of a sudden
that I'd been trying to emulate
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:and become a version of that,
which for them is a beautiful fit.
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:But for me, I was like, oh my
God, what have I been doing?
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:This is nuts.
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:This is not the life that I wanna have.
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:This is like I'm somehow
sleep walked my way.
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:Into wanting this or
thinking that I need this.
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:And this is, comes back to this
confusion around want or need.
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:Like I didn't want it and I also
realizing I didn't need it and I'd
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:entangled both of the two things.
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:But what happened was I, it was
like a four hour event and by
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:the time the event ended, I.
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:There, there's something that sometimes
happens when we have this cracking
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:open that we start to, to make sense
of it, we start to turn to either
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:blame or justify or explain it.
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:And the only thing I could
turn to was turn it inward,
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:like, what's wrong with me?
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:Like, why am I not enjoying this?
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:Why am I starting to feel like
there's something wrong with me?
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:There's something broken.
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:Why is this not the answer that I've
been seeking when all indications
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:on paper or logic or the, the way
that I've lived my life until this
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:point, you know, why is it not?
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:The solution, like why is
it not working and fitting?
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:And I had these questions
swirling around and like, is
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:there something wrong with me?
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:Like I am.
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:I.
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:Broken.
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:Am I stuck in scarcity?
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:you know, all of these questions,
pointing it inward as if there was
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:something drastically wrong with me,
and that they were right, and that This
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:world of entrepreneurship was right and
correct and gospel written in stone, and
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:there was something broken within me.
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:And so we left the event and
got back to the accommodation,
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:and I felt like an empty shell.
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:I walked into the accommodation and the
tears started, the heaviness, started
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:the questioning, that feeling of like, I
thought I'd built this incredible solid
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:basis and all of a sudden it was like
that had just smashed into a million
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:pieces and I was just falling and floating
and not knowing where the solid ground
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:was anymore because this thing that I
thought was real and that I'd wanted and
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:that was going to carry me to my next
level of my life and a deeper connection
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:with myself had just been shattered.
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:All of a sudden I was seeing
everything and feeling everything,
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:and I just sunk into this really,
it wasn't a darkness, but it was a
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:despair of, if not this, then what?
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:You know, I've always been.
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:I guess this is part of
societal conditioning, that my
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:logical mind is the safest bet.
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:Like if my logical mind can figure it
out and I can see it, then I can plan it.
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:Then I can be sure that it's
gonna happen and I'm safe.
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:And so with this space, with being in
this, all of a sudden this liminal voids
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:space of, well, if not that, then what?
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:My mind was absolutely reeling, and
this is the thing, um, I do know
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:quite a lot about human design and
particularly about my own human design.
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:I'm a six two
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:I have pretty much everything
in my centers undefined and open
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:except for my spleen and my sacral.
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:And so the only two things that I know
for sure to rely on is my connection
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:to my intuition and to source and my
deep knowing, my body's ability to
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:know what is right or what is wrong.
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:I have an open hit.
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:I have an open, um, top of mind.
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:I have all of my other centers.
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:Open.
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:So that means that I can feel, see,
sense, no take in map, match all of
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:the other energies that are around me.
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:But in terms of who I am
now and where I'm going.
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:that is the job of my
sacral and my spleen.
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:But because I have operated and been
conditioned to for such a long time
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:to be academic, to be logical, to
be sure by plans and stats, and feel
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:safe by making decisions in that way.
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:This smashing of this grounded platform
that I had been working on building and
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:increasing and heightening with that
gone, everything just felt like it was
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:reeling, like, if not this, then what.
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:And so I just ended up into this place of,
I can only really describe it as despair.
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:This despair of sadness of not this
then what, if not this, then who am I?
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:And and we were due to check out
the next morning after this event.
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:My mom and I spent the rest
of that day just kind of like
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:feeling through all of the stuff.
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:I don't know whether to burn everything
to the ground, whether to start pivoting,
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:to, to do something different, like
everything just became liminal and
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:vast and unsure, but at the same time.
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:At the same time, even though there
was so much despair and so much
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:questioning there, there was also
this feeling of yes, blank slate.
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:My logical mind was finding it.
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:' cause it was like, if I have a blank
slate, what do I write on the sleep?
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:Like, tell me what to write on the slate.
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:I need to know, I need to be
able to write something or draw
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:something or, or, or just know.
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:And so I had to really work
with that and be like, no,
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:blank slate means opportunity.
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:It means possibility.
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:It means discovery.
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:Not only of what this is, but who I am.
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:The life that I truly wanna lead.
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:And we were meant to check outta the
accommodation the next morning, but I was
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:in such a space of sadness and questioning
that I said to my mom, like, I can't go
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:back to my home right now because I just,
I don't know where I am and who I am.
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:And so we quickly got on as women too.
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:We got onto Airbnb and
we found another place.
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:'cause the place that we just
checked out of wasn't available.
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:I would've just gone back
there, but that's okay.
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:We found another Airbnb and I just looked
at my mom, I'm like, is this crazy?
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:Like should I just.
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:Just suck it up and go back home
and, and like just figure it out.
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:Like it's crazy to pay for another
two nights of accommodation,
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:you know, is this worth it?
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:And we looked at each other and
we're like, let's just do it.
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:She wasn't ready to go home too, because
she was in this beautiful energy of all
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:this expansiveness that had happened.
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:She's like, I need some more time
to really marinate in this and
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:figure out what I wanna do too.
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:So.
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:We found another Airbnb and we booked it
and we checked in for another two nights.
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:And those two nights were so tough in
terms of not knowing the solid ground
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:that I wanted to have underneath me.
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:It wasn't that I.
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:Couldn't or didn't have solid ground,
but all of a sudden it was like,
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:what ground do I want underneath me?
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:Where do I wanna take this?
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:What do I wanna do?
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:And so I spent those two days
just really allowing myself to
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:feel this, We sat by the water,
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:a lot and looked at the ocean and
how beautiful that is, and we went
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:on a gondola ride up and down the
mountain to see as far as we could
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:see, and we meditated and journaled
and just spent time in this space of
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:allowing this emotion to move through.
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:And it was the best thing.
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:Honestly, because in that space I allowed
myself to really realize, oh my goodness,
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:I have gone through my life just shaving
off pieces of me and parts of me that I.
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:have enabled me to fit
into spaces and boxes.
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:Like I just shaved a little bit off
here and shaved a little bit off
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:there to come become a certain kind
of coach or a certain kind of wife, or
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:to fit into the suburb that I live in.
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:It's like, oh, just
trim this and trim that.
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:But that trimming at the time,
I'm gonna reflect back onto it.
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:It wasn't forced trimming.
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no, there's the thing I'm gonna do.
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and contort and I, and willingly
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convinced myself that's what I
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place that I'm like, I can't breathe.
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off parts of myself?
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sad, but optimistically convinced
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in the world and that I was in
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terms of helping the world and helping
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doing it in a way that was conforming
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a routine in a house in a way that I
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that I had confused the
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what I'd need and what I thought
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to be the things that I chased.
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actually need, there's only a few things.
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be slightly different, but my
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just based on my energetics.
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I'm really cold and I have the body
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sunlight, like food, water,
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being safe, just finding safety
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that I absolutely need, and everything
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it's up for grabs in the way that I
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that light me up, I want to be
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see nature, I feel super enclosed.
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having in this beautiful apartment.
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fixtures of this apartment is gorgeous.
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building in a well sought
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because we look out onto the complex
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this caged kind of feeling that comes
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benchtop, you know what I mean?
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I'm like so at peace when I can
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sitting by the sea or on the gondola.
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place that is just peaceful, I'm happy.
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teetering on the edge of need, but
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energetics, my mediumship, my channeling,
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that I love is having time to just listen,
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sounds around me so that I can
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and interpret and bring through.
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thing that I wanna build my life around.
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me so much joy, is travel.
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leads to increased expenditure.
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part of my mind that always goes,
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that in the business, so I should save
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massive trips overseas and they brought
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how little value I had placed on that I'd.
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niceties, a luxury, you know, I
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run my business everywhere in the world.
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the time because again, I was copying
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:other digital nomads and thought
that that would be the thing to do.
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the times that I'm the most happiest
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a little trip to explore a new place.
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for hours in a direction to end up
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then explore and have lunch and come
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heading out somewhere to meet someone.
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and heading towards these destinations
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that are nature driven, the hiking, the
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the luxury or when I have time bucket.
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the weekend when we're not working.
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choice that I wanna have.
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that I'm realizing I'd slice
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certain way that I couldn't do it.
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desperately want in my life.
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had to have a really big conversation
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so unhappy that I had sleepwalked
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certain way that wasn't perhaps me.
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I'd contorted myself so much.
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leave the apartment, not because the
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was obviously difficult because.
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worried that it was because of us.
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I are not the problem.
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with all of my heart and my
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to build for ourselves had lent a
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and should and a little bit more on his
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and comfortable and stable.
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into making that, or trying to
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and I shared with him deeply that,
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but I'm gonna have to make a change.
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drastic change for me to become.
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want to be this real for the very first
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stripped back version of who I am, and I
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that I'm not her or I haven't been her,
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desperately, so intimately, and him being
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it and he's like, whatever you need.
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something else, let's do it.
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:Like divorce isn't gonna solve
anything for us because our
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and understand how you're feeling
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grateful for that and for him.
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for the next week of, well, who am I?
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me that are never really opened to
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because all of a sudden they have
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am writing on threads and substack.
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a very good writer in terms of, I've
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have required writing, and my writing
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him, like writing, like I need to write.
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to just write and express.
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to, but I need to open that door.
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really learn and pick up a camera.
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through me to be able to start capturing
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my writing in the photographic form.
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because I allowed myself to go back to
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the, the things that I thought I wanted
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and allow those little trickles
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seeing the version of, of who I
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is authentic, that is real to me.
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photographer to ask for mentorship.
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:I'm looking at changing the way
that I completely live so that I can
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sunlight on my skin to be able to
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:take who I am and what I do on the
road and allow whatever opportunities
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:I'm opening the doors to that.
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my husband and with my myself.
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:This is what I want and not
being too afraid to say it.
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:This is the most significant thing
that I'm discovering through this
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go to your loved ones and say,
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lighting me up and I wanna go and do that.
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:is such a big conversation to have.
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:It takes a lot of bravery and a
lot of courage, but it was the most
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was like, oh no, are we okay?
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:And I'm like, this is not about us.
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:You and I are solid.
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come, but this is what I need to do.
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:I can't stay here.
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:I can't keep slicing off parts
of myself to fit into this
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:life because I'm just so sad.
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:I need to do this for me, but I'm
not trying to burn everything to
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:the ground and if, if a life on the
road is not for you, that's okay.
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:You can stay and we'll
figure it out no matter what.
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:We'll figure it out because whatever is
meant to be will be having those kinds
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the past I would've agonized over that.
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of bravery, of courage, all of the healing
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:and all the work that I've done having
those conversations they're just what is.
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weren't moments where I was like,
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:But there was so much frequency
behind me that I was matched to
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:that allowed me to just say, and
of course I broke down in tears.
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:There were tears and things.
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:But there is just this beautiful
opportunity now to really start to uncover
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way and adjust, where my income comes
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with because it is so important to me to
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a bold, brave woman project.
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being a bold, brave woman.
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:And so if there is anything in your
life that you are realizing that you've
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:sleepwalked into or you have confused
want and need or isn't fitting, just
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:spend some time really feeling into that.
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:Where have I confused want and need?
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:Where does my soul wanna take me?
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to start having so that I can even
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:just start the process of excavation?
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to me going to this event, having
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inward, and then starting to uncover
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:it and being ready to answer them.
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:This is gonna be an unfolding
journey, like I am right at the
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:beginning now of starting to unpack
and really figure out what this is
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:gonna look like in the next chapters.
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:I'm gonna be sharing it as I go so that
we can explore and uncover and experience
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:this together because in this world, I
truly believe that there are times that
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:are beautiful and powerfully spent in solo
moments of excavation, of questioning, of
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:wondering, but also incredible moments of
sharing and community and collaboration.
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:So, at any time you wanna reach
out or connect or share your own
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:experiences, please feel free to do so.
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:I'm gonna be thinking and deeply
pondering over the next week.
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:I'll be back with more episodes on
updates of this, but also other little
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the way, and I cannot wait to see what
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:unfolds for both of us, for all of us.
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:For everyone who's here on this planet
with us on this journey because we are
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:all bold, brave women, and I cannot wait
to see what we create on the other side.
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:Have a beautiful day, and
I'll speak to you soon.
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:Andrea Matthies: Thank you so much
for tuning into today's episode.
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